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Job quantity response after operation nonconformance

  • 18 March 2022
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At our company, we have many jobs with a demand quantity of 1. When an issue is found on the assembly during an operation, it is nonconformed from that operation, processed, and dispositioned through DMR. In the event that the assembly is not within and cannot be reworked, it is failed off the the DMR. Does Epicor have a defined/expected way to still meet the demand of 1 on the job that the nonconformance came from?

This has caused a lot of issues for us and we are trying to figure out the correct way to handle this.

The example part above is serial tracked and after doing some testing, I know that the Job will only allow a new serial number to be generated if the nonconformane/DMR is processed or if a second demand is created (as a work around, this is what we have been doing, but cannot nonconform from the operation; instead it is nonconformed from stock to avoid extra serial numbers). The issue we have with the processing the NCM/DMR is 1) processing response time is too slow for mfg & 2) the material check boxes do not reset to indicate that more material is needed on the job (only resets if demand is added).

Main question: Does Epicor have a defined/expected way to still meet the demand of 1 on the job that the nonconformance came from?


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Following with interest….

We too have encountered system behavioural changes as we upgraded from 9 to 10. It would be really good (..essential...) if there was a documented approach from Epicor to scenarios of this nature, and others.

We use Production Yield to keep Job quantities in check when scrap is encountered, but have experienced some very different behaviour in 10 involving NCM and DMR that is down-counting job quantities down when this occurs, but not back up if the DMR is ‘accept’ - which is an allowable output from DMR. 

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Dear Mike, 

 

Have you tried modifying the job to add a rework operation?  Maybe a duplicate of the operation where the scrap event happened, that would consume the material again, and require a S/N be selected?

 

HTH

..Monty.

You can flag those parts for “Production Yield Recalc” - I believe it became available in Epicor 9, but I know for sure 10.1 and forward have the option.

In addition to flagging the parts for production yield recalc, make sure you setup the production yield recalc process (we run it every hour with auto job completion and labor backflush - all depends on your environment).

In your situation, the non conformance follow by the recalc process would set your production quantity to 0 and MRP would kick out a new job.  If you typically can rework those parts and disposition them back to the job, then clear the production recalc flag so MRP doesn’t create new jobs that you don’t want.

 

Jenn

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