If you run Production Yield Recalculation Process as a recurring task daily, it will reduce the job qty’s to account for losses and any remaining OPs with materials tied to them will show a lower qty required.Negatives are that labor reporting errors (like reporting an OP complete short) can result in incorrect adjustments. I find it easier just to run this SQL query out of excel a few times a day & review the jobs returned quickly and either correct reporting errors or just do the job qty adjustment. SELECT JobOper.JobNum, JobOper.OprSeq, JobOper.OpCode, JobOper.RunQty, JobOper.QtyCompletedFROM JobProd INNER JOIN JobOper ON JobProd.Company = JobOper.Company AND JobProd.JobNum = JobOper.JobNumWHERE (JobProd.OrderNum = 0) AND (JobOper.JobComplete = 0) AND (JobOper.OpComplete = 1) AND (JobOper.RunQty > JobOper.QtyCompleted)order by JobOper.JobNum, JobOper.OprSeq Desc
You scrapped the subcontract PO (and only it’s value), not the operation which would have grabbed all incurred costs up to that point. If you one through the DMR rejection state, it just looks like the subcontract OP is incomplete.I understand why it was designed to behave this way (as it’s applicable in many environments where you might for example just return to vendor and have them strip/replate a part) but you’ll have to adapt your processing to how the system handles it if you want to have total incurred costs up to that point pulled out of the job. Perhaps accept with deviation (which would still be a black mark if you’re doing vendor quality metrics) and then NC the operation to pull all costs out. (You can still reference the vendor ID in the DMR even for operation source NC’s & handle any credit/debit memo issues manually).
You can sell phantoms. (95+% of our sales are assemble to order nonstock phantoms and we use order job wizard to create make direct to order production jobs.)
For Time & Qty (start/end activity) labor entry defined operations, Epicor is pretty good about splitting labor hours when 2 operations are clocked in by one employee in some overlapping period. You can also get it to split burden if the resource group/resources are set up to do so, On E9, it would only split Production activity clocked into in overlap. On E10, it will split Set up & production that are overlapping.The ‘split’ is on the hours recorded. 2 job OPs started simultaneously and and ended after 4 hours will have 2 Labor Hrs recorded in each. (If you’re not splitting burden, you will see 4 burden hours each where burden is the true elapsed time.)It is a little flaky… I’ve never seen it split more than 2 ways (being clocked into activity on more than 2 job OPs doesn’t split it more than 2 ways) and I’ve seen (many) cases where the employee clocking into a start activity later while still active in an activity starting earlier doesn’t seem to detect the condition at all
Job labor OP or material based NC’s don’t immediately pull cost out of the job. It’s just the 1st step & data path in the process that might if, ultimately, the NC is inspect failed to DMR and DMR rejected as long as the job isn’t closed & COS/WIP cleared. In fact you can’t (generally) Close a job that has open NC pending inspection or an unresolved DMR but across the years from Vantage 8 through Epicor 9 and now E10, there have been some buggy releases that allowed the safeguard for premature WIP clearing to be overcome in regard to subcontract OP linked PO’s. (If the link to the job-assy-OP was broken on the PO side, it would break cost flow enforcement.) In the end, the fact that there is that delayed cost movement makes sense particularly for labor NC's that pull material and labor cost incurred up to & including the NC’ed OP in weighted qty WIP value. It allows any labor edits or job adjustments (or for make to order jobs, shipment processing edits prior to invoice) t
While at the 11/6 SSRS session, I understand there is a chance Rose may not be physically on-site and rather might be doing it via web-ex or gotomeeting, etc.,? I had let our Accounting manager know about the topic & that Rose from Epicor would be presenting & he was quite interested until I told him where it was going to be. (He'd be looking at about a 4 hr trip each way & his schedule that week is too full to to go out the night before & split it up.) It was suggested that if Rose is presenting remotely, we'd be able to join the session remotely as well. When it's known whether Rose will be onsite or doing it remotely, would someone please let us know? If it WILL be a remote presentation we can join remotely ourselves, we're implementing the Asset management module right now (9.05.702A progress) so that would be of interest to us (again - only if it will be a remote session). I'm also always interested in better understanding cost flow through DMR processing (PO, Inventory & Job lab
I found it very worthwhile Mercer. Brian (Second Foundation) did an excellent job with it. At the end of the session, Brain said he was going to clean up some issues over this weekend on the remote accessed training db we were working on & that we'd likely be able to remote access it for a few days next week (before it would be in use for another group). The photo I took with my phone of his whiteboard (with hand written addresses for remote access, login info, etc. to that training db) came out less than readable. If anyone has the info, I'd appreciate it if they'd post it. Rob Brown Versa Products
Mercer, Marilyn, Have WebEx or GotToMeeting remote attendance options been set up? If so, where are the links/meeting numbers, etc.,. I prefer onsite but with a 7 hr round trip, I have to consider the alternatives. Rob Brown Versa Products robertb@versa-valves.com In Reply to Greg Burns: Mercer,Should I fill out the registration if I am only going to do the online part of the meeting?Greg Burns[cid:image001.jpg@01CFF35D.C7245970]Cannon Instrument Company2139 High Tech RoadState College, PA 16803 USAFrom: A Mercer Sisson [mailto:cpavug@list.epicorusers.org]Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:23 PMTo: cpavug@yahoogroups.com; cpavug@list.epicorusers.orgSubject: [cpavug] - Fwd: Nov 6 registrationHere is the link.A. Mercer SissonSystems ManagerInsaco incams@Insaco.comSent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: Marilyn Velardo mailto:info@epicorusers.org>>Date: October 21, 2014 at 10:49:01 AM PDTTo: 'Doug Oswald' mailto:dougo@fleetwoodfixtures.com>>Cc: A Mercer Sisson mailto:AMS@INSACO
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